So a week or so I posted a review on Amazon for The Marriage Plot by Jeffrey Eugenides, in which I said:
To put it mildly, this book was drudgery. None of the characters are very likable. Madeline is a whiny bore. Leonard is often a bully. Mitchell is a creep who should be watching Madeline with high-powered binoculars. There's no reason I'd ever want to read about any of these people. Nor do I care who marries who or doesn't marry who. They could all fall off a cliff for all I care.
The other day then someone responded:
Annoying as heck when a reviewer complains that the characters aren't likeable. If you want likeable characters, go hang out with your friends. It is fallacious to equate likable characters with a good book. What about Iago? And Lady Macbeth? People who complain about unlikable characters should go back to Young Adult books or simple formula driven novels.
Now the thing is, I don't always mind it if a character isn't a Boy Scout. If the commenter had paid attention she would have seen the part where I recommended "Less Than Zero." There aren't many likable people in that book. What's the difference between the kids in "Less Than Zero" and those in "The Marriage Plot?" Those in Less Than Zero actually do stuff. Interesting stuff like snort coke off urinals and party a lot. Whereas in "The Marriage Plot" there's a lot of navel gazing and sitting around in boring classes. There's also some graphic sex stuff, but that's too little too late.
I don't really read a lot of books about people who are Boy Scouts. Recently I read a series of books by Lawrence Block about a guy named Keller who seems like an ordinary guy--except every so often he gets on a plane and goes to murder someone for money. See, that's interesting. Whereas in "The Marriage Plot" confused twentysomethings not sure what to do with their lives are played out.
And if you're the commenter you might sneer and say, "Well you just like genre books." Which couldn't be farther from the truth. I read a lot of literary books and a lot of them don't feature characters who were exactly likable. For example, "The World According to Garp." Seriously, Garp is kind of a prick. He's self-righteous a lot of the time, even though he has no right to be. But he does interesting stuff. He goes to Vienna, he buys hookers, he becomes a famous author, he pisses off a lot of people, and ultimately gets murdered. Not so likable guy, but likable book because it's not just sitting around in classrooms and pining away for people who aren't worth pining for.
Or take "Portnoy's Complaint" by Philip Roth. It's a book about a neurotic guy who's almost a sexual deviant. He's really not likable in the sense that I'd want to hang out with him, but his story is likable. Other examples: the Rabbit novels by John Updike, the Bascombe novels by Richard Ford, "Bonfire of the Vanities" by Tom Wolfe (and "A Man in Full" for that matter), "American Psycho" by Bret Easton Ellis, so on and so forth.
All right, so it's not just that I'm some simpleton who wants characters to be Ned Flanders. When I say the characters are unlikable and I don't care if they fall off a cliff, what I'm saying is they're BORING. They're the kind of people you try to avoid at a party because they'll just go on and on talking your ear off with some dull story they think is super interesting until you want to shoot yourself.
Now if you want to avoid that, don't worry whether your character is a good person; what's important is whether your character is in interesting situations. Also, if your character is a bad guy, make the narrative fun to read. If you plod along in dull third person omniscience with little wit or charm, then it's only going to draw more attention to the fact your characters are so boring and whiny I'd like to push them right off that cliff.

I LOVED The World According to Garp - mostly because of the characters. I wouldn't be friends with any of them, but they certainly were interesting. Maybe it's not boring characters as much as boring writing? I didn't read the book you reviewed. Just wondering.
ReplyDeleteSo, does this make you want to amend your original review? The reason, sounds like you dismissed the book because they characters weren't interesting here - but the review on amazon (without this post for context) seems to paint a different picture about your reason for distaste.
ReplyDeleteThere were a lot of reasons for distaste. The characters were just one.
ReplyDeleteStick to your guns. I like the honesty in your review. I recently came under attack for my reading of a book but meh...I don't give a shit. It's acceptable to spout an opinion...there are too many folks out here that just want the "This is a great read" line and it's bullshit. If something is boring...say it is boring. The writer can deal with it.
ReplyDeleteIn this case he's going to sell hundreds of thousands of books anyway, even if I say it's crap.
ReplyDeleteI kind of had a theory that he was actually doing this on purpose to turn off the mainstream audience that bought "Middlesex" because Oprah told them too. I mean if you want a book to be popular with the average public, starting off with all this description of philosophy and religion and Victorian literature classes probably isn't the way to hook people.
That person who reviewed your review was dumb. I haven't read Eugenides' book, but I think the point is that you're SUPPOSED to like his characters. That's why you're supposed to care what happens to them. At least, that's what I've gathered from reviews of the book, including, now, yours.
ReplyDeleteThe book sounds like a grad student's riff on romantic comedies, and the point of a romantic comedy is that you HAVE to like the main characters or you don't give a whit about whether he or she finds love. So unless Eugenides' point is that these people are desperately UNlikeable and the book is about that -- in which case he was so off the mark in his writing that an experienced writer/reviewer like you missed the point totally -- then he blew it.
I view a "likeable" character as someone like Patty from "Freedom." While Franzen's book was overblown, Patty was someone who clearly wasn't perfect but who I liked and was willing to read about despite her problems. Her son (Joey?) wasn't likeable at all. He was a little prick, and not an interesting one like Garp, but an annoying one. Joey dragged the book down because the book was about likeable people doing unlikeable things, and Joey didn't fit in at all.
I digress. F**K those people. Who gets mad over a review of someone else's book? Losers.
If this was supposed to be a romantic comedy it was sorely lacking in both areas.
ReplyDeleteI don't know why people get so pissed off about customer reviews. Especially like this one person who wrote a little diatribe about "Brazil" by John Updike that I'd reviewed five years ago. It's like, dude that was five years ago. Get a life.
It doesn't matter if your character is likeable or not. He does have to be sympathetic, though. The reader has to be able to relate to the character in a way that draws him in. In other words, he has to be interesting. or be involved in something interesting.
ReplyDeleteI don't care what people say about The Hunger Games, I'm not going to read it. I find the whole dystopian thing completely uninteresting, and I'm similarly disinterested in the love triangle. I just don't care.
However, Thomas Covenant is a great unlikeable character. His circumstances are unique, and he does some bad things, but you can understand why he does them even while you hate what he's doing.
Oh, and, yeah... what's the deal with reviewing someone else's review. What a waste of time. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and it's just stupid to argue with someone over that. Unless, you're the author and your feelings are just hurt, in which case, you should keep it to yourself.
ReplyDeleteAh, the old "likeability" debate!
ReplyDeleteI find it hard to like characters who don't like themselves. They can have doubts and flaws, but gosh, they have to at least care about their own lives and be passionate about something--anything!--for me to care along with them.
You know what's appealing? Enthusiasm. In fiction and in real life. Being earnest, not ironic.